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Revd Yuce Kabakci's avatar

Another excellent article (are they called articles on Substack? I am quite behind this forum).

As someone who has ministered in Anglican churches in America, Middle East, and now in England (the Church of England) many of the things you mentioned in the article have been my first hand experience here.

I do not want to turn in this into a whole paper itself but I can say that difference between RC and CofE churches and their respective growth figures here have to do with which one of them want to stay true to their identity and resist the world around it re-defining its boundaries and freedoms.

I have worked in all shades of churches in the Church of England and my observation has been that I, as someone who has a vocation to the priesthood, have not progressed in my spirituality in churches that try to reach everyone at the same time. I applaud the motivation and missional sensitivity in this but at the end of the day, these type of churches, in order not to offend particular sensibilities, find themselves offering no more than a therapeutic deism, not catholic and apostolic Christianity as we sing in our Creed. This has to be so because once people open up their New Testament or any document from the early church, they see the stark contrast between this "beige" Christianity that smell and taste so much like the world, and the early church that turned the world upside down by being the most counter-cultural organisation imaginable.

An amazing book I discovered about this topic (why and how the early church grew so much in numbers despite doing everything opposite what we are doing today in the West) is Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider.

As an Anglican, I used to think that it was our strength not to be a confessional church, but I am not sure I agree with that sentiment anymore. Like you said, the world's confusion is pressing around you everyday and one desires a physician after a long day. And when the church, in the name of not looking too arrogant, offers "well it's up to you", then you look for other doctors. Currently, I see a lot of clergy being more interested in being revolutionist in the political sense of the word than being priests, which reminds me of this Chesterton quote:

"The modern revolutionist, being an infinite sceptic, is always engaged in undermining his own mines. In his book on politics he attacks men for trampling on morality; in his book on ethics he attacks morality for trampling on men. Therefore the modern man in revolt has become practically useless for all purposes of revolt. By rebelling against everything he has lost his right to rebel against anything."

That is why Islam is offering a different alternative to people, whether true or not, one with strong convictions. In my own life time, and in different continents and countries, I have never witnessed a church growing in both numbers and discipleship who refused to proclaim with St. Peter that salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.

There are growing and thriving Anglican parishes in England and there are shrinking Roman Catholic parishes, and vice versa. In my own experience, people are drawn to, as you said, churches that do know what they believe without believing that they know everything there is to know.

And I'll jus stop here :)

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David Roseberry's avatar

I think we need to get used to seeing it. Whoever predicted the demise of the RC was thankfully, very wrong.

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